Classical Guitar Lesson #2: P stroke
Lutemann asked:
at 1:08 in this video. What I meant to say is that all three P-joints extend together in the extension phase and flex together in flexion phase. The P middle joint doesn’t move much, but it does participate in both phases and is not static. To see all ten lessons, do a search for: classical guitar lessons murdick. To hear Kent Murdick play, go to members.aol.com Produced by Kent Murdick University of South Alabama … classical guitar lesson technique pstroke murdick aaron shearer …
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I really need to do the P stroke video over again. What I really wanted to say was that all three joints of the ‘P’ extend together to the string, and then all three joints flex together. The middle joint does not have a very large range of motion, and for some peple it won’t move at all. People who hold the P- tip fully extended will tend to move almost exclusively from the wrist joint.
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Maybe i did use the wrong word to descibe.On the video 107 you are showing as middle joint should be strait your’s is slightly bend it as you play during the video.Again sorry if i offended you.That what i did learn from Antonio Dumezic. Raffi Aslanyan, and finally Carlos Bonell. And also it is important think if you feel you are producing god sound what ever the position you are doing that’s the one is wright.Best regard
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I’m not sure what you mean by “wrong” There are various schools of thought on the ‘P’ stroke, all of which are used by fine players.
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Hi .I am not trying to be rude .but you finger positioning P is wrong,it is not supposed to be bend,at least it must be strait,
best regard .
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Part 2
As far as the fingers hitting the strings on the return, that is not a problem. There is a delay ( you don’t have to think about it) in the natural extension of the middle joint which allow the finger to miss the string on the return.
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Dear ericaltendorf,
You have really brought up some good points. Yes, you must move latterally a little with P even though it can’t really be seen. The reason you should minimize the latteral movement is for efficiency (IMO). All latteral movement is wasted movement and contributes nothing to the stroke. P does make a very narrow eliptical motion in order to avoid hitting the string on ectension.
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It seems the question of “straight-line” vs “circular” P stroke has to do with the return. It is fine to strike the string in a straight line, but clearly the thumb cannot follow exactly the reverse straight line back, or it would strike the string on return. It must move laterally somehow to bypass the string. (I actually have the same confusion about using 1st segment extension to clear the strings on ima free stroke return.) Lutemann, what is your take on this aspect of the stroke?
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old violins that is. Wood has a subtle effect on electric guitars but a tremendous effect on acoustics.
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It’s more for acoustics and build quality that anything. An acoustic guitar with a solid wood top will begin to sound better over time as the wood ages and stretches just like a violin. The more it’s played the fuller and warmer and louder it will sound because the properties of the wood will change. Older wood=better tone under most circumstances. Why do you think people pay tens of thousands of dollars for violins. Electric guitars on the other hand were made better in the 60′s than theyarenow
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thank you for the nice lesson!
It is useful
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ooh really, how intresting for us to know that. Thanks for sharing.
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your a dumb ass, hes saying that ’99 strat will sound better in 2040 than it did in 1999.
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So by your logic a guitar that was used by spanish people 200 years ago will sound great today?
No. Because it would break. When the first guitars came out, everyone was saying “fuck those, our lutes are better”. In 20 years time people will be hunting down a ’99 Strat for that “vintage” sound. So no, the quality of sound is not determined by age it’s determined by how good a guitar is.
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I know what you mean, I already know how to use my right hand for finger picking but man, you have to really worm up and practice to preform a song.
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I’m right beside you.
I play electric and classic guitar. The latter makes me feel like killing myself more often haha.
NOTE: i’m not suicidial it was just making a funny comment. A little dark humor doesn’t harm anyone.
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No.
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does that only apply to classical guitars?
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if the guitar is very old the sound of the guitar will be more great
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iwe got the same guitar
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Classic Guitar in my opinion is the hardest to play!
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You only rest ima on the first string in the beginning to get the feel of playing P. In the Shearer books he starts with a bunch of pieces that only use the P stroke on 4th, 3rd and 2nd strings. Here you would rest ima on the first string.
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Hi, when playing the 6th string do you still rest ima on the 1st string, or do you rest them anywhere/nowhere? Also, when I try to play consecutive strings (e.g. 6,5) my thumb hits the ringing string. Do you play with a straight thumb or curved. Curved thumb hits the previous string…
Thanks, great videos.
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my dad gave me a 43 year old guitar…is it worth anything? kinda looks busted
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I just bought my first classical guitar. A Cordoba C5-CE. What do you guys think? I love it.
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I meant to give you a “p’s” up -sorry